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Pastoral Wisdom and Entrepreneurial Grit: Ryan Taylor's Path to Harmonizing Life's Six Pillars

RJ Campbell and Dustin Hoog Episode 85

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Fear often arrives before the storm, not in its midst. "The Comfort Crisis" illuminated this truth, and it's the springboard for my conversation with Pastor Ryan Taylor, a man whose impact on my life reverberates beyond Sunday sermons. Together, we navigate the confluence of pastoral duties and entrepreneurial vigor, dissecting what it means to balance the six fundamental pillars of life. Ryan, with roots deep in farm soil, shares the unexpected route that led him to spiritual leadership, a path carved by the hand of a mentor who glimpsed potential beyond the fields.

Crafting a life of intention isn't just wise, it's essential—especially when your vocation extends beyond the boundaries of a clock. In this episode, Ryan and I share our journey towards a structured yet fluid routine that honors our commitments to faith, family, and fitness. We discuss the art of segmenting our day to magnify our presence, be it in prayer, at the dinner table, or in business meetings. Tune in to hear how we've learned to harness careful planning and divine guidance to ward off burnout and ensure each pillar stands strong.

In an age where screens often eclipse human connection, it's urgent we reassess our digital priorities. Our discussion turns to the silent yet potent messages we send when we let technology dictate our attention, especially to those we hold dear. But fear not, we don't just diagnose the problem; we offer strategies to keep relationships at the forefront, like Dr. Gary Chapman's techniques to enrich marital bonds. Join us as we explore ways to maintain intimacy and lead spiritually within our families, finding balance in a world teeming with distraction.

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Voiceover:

Dads, do you want a thriving business that doesn't control you, a passionate marriage and kids that adore you? Do you want to grow deeper in your faith, be healthier both physically and mentally, build more meaningful relationships with your friends? Welcome to the Balanced Business Dad Podcast, where, in each episode, we dive into balancing and optimizing the six pillars of life Faith, health, marriage, fatherhood, brotherhood and business. And here are your hosts, pioneers of the Balance Business Dad movement Dustin Hogue and RJ Campbell.

Coach Dustin:

What's going on, everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Balance Business. Dad, I'm your host, coach Dustin, and happy Tuesday from St Louis is where we're coming from you today. And guys, real quick. And happy Tuesday from St Louis is where we're coming from you today. And guys, real quick.

Coach Dustin:

I want to tell you about this book that you've heard us talk about a couple different times, but it's called the Comfort Crisis and RJ has mentioned it a couple times on the show. But one of the quotes I heard today and I'm going to butcher it, but I thought it was so profound, it was talking about fear, and it was talking about fear is the emotion that's actually leading up to the event of whatever it is. It's not necessarily during the event, but it's leading up to the event and I thought, wow, that was pretty cool, because there's been things that we've been worried about or fearful of and then when we push through, it ends up being okay. So I thought that was a really good quote, but I highly recommend that book. But today I want to introduce you guys to someone that's really important in my life, and I don't know how much he realizes that, but the pastor of my church that I go to you know a spiritual leader, to me, my family. There's also a school that's associated with the church, so even my kids. So I'm super excited to welcome to the show today Pastor Ryan Taylor.

Coach Dustin:

How are you, sir?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I'm doing really great. It's a beautiful Tuesday. So far, yeah. One of those weird days again where it's been cold in the morning, it's supposed to get hot in the afternoon. So I'm wearing a sweater this morning and then I'll probably take it off by the time it gets up to 70 again. So I know.

Coach Dustin:

Got to love the Midwest, right, yeah. So you know, it seems so. I kind of my best friend and I might have said this on the show before, as his dad was also a pastor of the church I went to so I've kind of seen the family life of a pastor and even though I don't think a lot of people would consider it an entrepreneurial world, I believe that it really is, because you are dealing with a lot.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

People who don't think it's entrepreneurial are crazy. Exactly, it's so much the same. There's so much overlap that happens between the business world and being a pastor. Yes, we're just dealing with souls rather than dealing with KPIs. I think that's what you call them, the heat performance indicators. I don't know, yes, so true.

Coach Dustin:

So true, yeah, which that's what I wanted to have you on the show, because you obviously are a pastor, which to me is there's so many overlaps there. But you fit the balance business that so well. And we've had lunch and talked about this before. But you know, we focus on, obviously, faith as our first pillar, then our health, then our marriage, then being a father, then being a friend, and then our business or job, whatever it may be. And I thought, cause I've seen the roles of a pastor in a very close setting and I mean you guys do a lot, so I just wanted to have you on the show so you can talk about how you balance it, for lack of a better word and just kind of your story. So, pastor, how did you even get into this? How did you become a pastor?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

It's not something I ever thought. I grew up in a small farming community, about 900 people. I grew up on a farm my whole life. My grandpa both my grandpas were farmers and taught me work ethic, just how to get up in the morning and start getting to work and went to a small school. I only graduated with about, I think, 25 people in my class Tiny, tiny school, wow. And I. Tiny school, wow. And I figured that was it. You grow up in Oakland, illinois, you're there, and that's kind of a small-town life. But then my sister had met a boyfriend who was going to a school up in Wisconsin called Concordia University in Wisconsin and I went up and visited and I said you know what, maybe I'll head off to school. And so I went off to college.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

Um, I was, uh, uh, been musically gifted my whole life. Thought that was, that was it. I was going to be a music teacher. I wanted to instill the love of music into kids. Oh man, music stuff.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I failed out of the program, failed like like done the program. My mentor was like this is not for you. And I was like you are correct, it is not. So I didn't know what to do. So I mulled that around for a while and I went to theology because I enjoy reading God's word. And it wasn't until the summer of I graduated college. And it wasn't until the summer of I graduated college and it wasn't until that summer a really great mentor of mine poured into me so much and just a really wise person who said you know, you can go back home and you can do the farm thing. You got an education, it's great, good for you. Or you can continue on this and head off into pastoral ministry. And most pastors will tell you that the first time someone says that to you it's like there's no, that's not, that's not happening.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

You're going to tell me to go to four more years of school after I just got out of four years of school and head off and learn some stuff, and then who knows where God's going to put me after that. But I always continue to look at my life as a way in which God has taken care of me and my life every step of the way, and a lot of days I forget that and I just need to be reminded each and every day that each step that I've walked has been God purposely pulling me through and because after that year, that summer, I needed a place to live, I worked at a camp. That's where I met my wife, becky. So I mean, I was not planning on that at all, but God was. And then I went off to to the seminary and uh, and uh headed off, uh to another small town, uh, in Northeast Nebraska for five years, uh, to be a pastor, and then God called me back here to St Charles my wife is from uh, perry County and so and we got two kids and uh, I've been here for now, man going.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I'm in my, I think, my fifth year here at Emanuel and it's been incredible and I want to change it. Change it for the world. Uh, anything that that that I do, uh for the world. No amount of money or or in no amount of, uh praise, I would never change anything for that, because it's just it's. It's one of the most worthwhile things I could ever see myself myself doing. Yeah, now I know that about what you said earlier. Thank you for that, by the way, blew me away, yeah.

Coach Dustin:

Yeah, let them not.

Coach Dustin:

Yeah.

Coach Dustin:

So what I love is hearing that story, is that what you just finished up with is I wouldn't change it for the world, and.

Coach Dustin:

But I also want to really hone in on the fact that as a pastor, you are truly have the struggles of an everyday man and I think sometimes, if you don't know the pastor that well or the person who's leading your church, you see them literally up on the altar, if you will, and you don't know that they have the challenges of the other business dads out there with the challenges in their marriage or being a father because, as we've talked so many times, being a parent is hard but also the social life of their friends, because I believe you have to have that community and I've seen, at the drop of a hat, a pastor get a call hey, we need you at the hospital.

Coach Dustin:

So that means I have to leave my family. Now we're in a bigger church now. Where I grew up there was one pastor and that was it for the whole congregation. How do you guys handle that, where you're making sure that obviously the faith part's taken care of, but also you as the man and the health and the marriage and being a friend and a father?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

how do you handle that? It's one of those things that I run a lot with under this mantra of there are busy weeks and there's not busy weeks. There are crazy times and there are times when things are just kind of going and sometimes as a pastor, you don't know when those weeks are coming and when those weeks aren't coming. And so it's been really important for me in my life to make sure that I have that really healthy balance of that understanding and having the trust, because I do. You know, as much as an entrepreneur I am, I do work for the congregation and the people who are here, and so I have to have the trust in my congregation to know that, hey, it's okay that pastor is taking that time off today to go do something else because of the week. That it's been One of the things that's always been helpful to me and I don't know if it's helpful or not is I?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I section my day like into three days, I mean in three parts. You know there's a morning, there's okay, noon and there's an evening part of my day, and if the church church can have two of them, it's fine. You can have the morning, you can have the evening, but you know I need, I need some time, and so it might be that afternoon time that I like, there might be that morning time that I'm off, it might be that morning time that I'm off, it might be that evening time that I'm off. But I need that intentional break in my day because it's not a 9-to-5 job, it's not, and if I don't balance my day that way, I'm quickly working 12-, 15-hour days some days, just because I forgot, and it's easy to do, especially during the busy times.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

And so it's important for me to be like hey, what am I doing? What was my week? Look like when, where are my really busy points in my week? And if I got some busy points in that week, where where are the times that I'm taking off? You know, and I have to intentionally, intentionally do that, otherwise it's just, it's out of control real quick. And that's what you hear the horror stories of pastors being like, oh, you know, dad never was home and mom, you know, was mad at dad because he never came home at nighttime and he's not doing his part of the job. And I'm like, yeah, see how that quickly gets out of control.

Coach Dustin:

Yeah, so I love that. It's all about the intentionality. I have something on my monitor and it says set the intention. Right, I want to set the intention for everything I'm doing and it's it's kind of what you said. There is planning the week, so you plan the work right when you're not so dedicated to the work, so you have the family life, but are you planning out other parts, like the time, the purposeful time with your spouse, the purposeful time with your kids, even without them to have a social life away from your family.

Coach Dustin:

Is that all?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

encompassed in there, all that's encompassed in there. You know it's. It has to be. Um, those those intentional times, um, you know, for, for, for health reasons, those kinds of things. Um, you know, um, for for time with my spouse getting away with her and making sure those things are happening. Um, it, just it, just you gotta, you gotta.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

You know, I live and die by by, by my planner these days. I used to not be a planner guy. I was like I hate it, dude, I sit down and plan things, come on. And then I realized you know what, that's probably the most hopeful tool in my arsenal right now, because it's like I can look at my whole week and be like, oh yeah, that's that's, that's that's gotta go, or, or that can wait, or you know, just to just to be more intentional. You know, so many times we just fly by the seat of our pants and think we're just going to live life and it's like, well, that's fine, but if we're not intentional, it's you're going to burn out quick, because you don't. You're not trying to hide for things.

Coach Dustin:

So yeah, so true, right, if it's not on the calendar, it doesn't exist. I've lived by that mantra for a long time, that I heard that in a class once. Yeah, so that's awesome. You know, one of the things that we talk about at the Balance Business, that is, there's never what is when it's talking about being balanced, it's talking about being present in the pillar that you're in, right?

Coach Dustin:

So when I'm with God, when I want to spend time with God, when I'm at church, I don't want to worry about the other things. I don't want to worry about work, I don't want to worry about disciplining my kids on the way to church, which happens, you know. I want to be focused as much as I can at church. Therefore, when I'm working on my health, when I'm at the gym, when I'm working out, I want to be present there. When I'm with my wife, the same thing, and that's kind of what it means to us. So we can have it all, if you will, obviously with the help of God, and the only way we're getting is with the help of God. But we'd love to hear your feedback on that and what you think about being present in the times.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

And this right here is the worst thing that was ever invented.

Coach Dustin:

That was the cell phone for the people who can't see that it's terrible, yeah, for people who can't see.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

The cell phones. Man, I do a lot of, because I work with kids over here at the school, so I also do a lot of reading about health of kids, and one of the biggest things, one of the things that I've taken away from a lot of parenting books I've read and parenting classes I've read, is how true it is to be like when you put something in front of yourself, it doesn't have to be your phone, it could be anything, and your kids are right there, or your spouse is there, or, or church is there, or whatever it is, you put something else right there in front of them. What you're saying is this thing is way more important than you, and and and and. In a sense, what you're saying is I'm way more important than you are, I'm, I'm, I'm the most important thing, and and, and I'm going to do what my agenda has been set up with before I ever attend to anything else. And so you have to check yourself, especially at nighttime when I come home, because, man, if I had a busy day, dustin, it's like I get home and I'm going to sit on the couch and I'm just going to look at my phone because I'm tired and I get those endorphins in my head. They're like, oh, it feels real good, it feels real good. And then my kids come up to me and what I've noticed I don't know if you've noticed this in your life or anybody else has noticed this is that when I get interrupted in that I get angry because you've just interrupted what I'm doing. How dare you? And so it's important for us to check ourselves and be fully present in that moment of whatever we're doing, so that they can have the attention.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

And then when something comes up, you know we don't want to, we don't want to get angry because someone interrupted something, that, that, that I want to do. But wait, weren't you setting this time aside for that purpose? Right? And people, just we don't do that. I mean it's, it's a tough, tough society we live in that's just so driven by by our, by ourselves, like we. But we're not supposed to be, you know, and, like you said, we can't be completely balanced in that.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

But when we're there, you gotta be there. I mean especially, you know, with your spouse, especially as a pastor, or even with other entrepreneurs or people who are running their own businesses. Man, it's like you get home and your spouse is there and this is the love of your life, the person that you've been committed to, and they understand that you've been busy all day. They get it, but they've been busy all day. They get it, but they've been busy all day too, and what they need from you in that moment is for you to be present with them and see them and validate what they've been doing all day and then hopefully, they'll validate you afterwards in a healthy, good relationship.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

But that's so important. It's so important just to be present, and I love that about you know, being in that for for that, because I've. I've done it the opposite way in my life. When I first became a pastor, I was like, I'm going to vote, I'm going to change the world, and, uh, you burn out pretty quick and your family gets pretty mad and your health goes to crap and it's just not a great thing.

Coach Dustin:

So yeah, and thank you for being so transparent with that. I love that. You know, as a pastor, you besides leading the church, there's also a lot of counseling and talking to people and things like that, especially with the, I would assume, and I don't know, but in the marriages and people struggling with that I would love and I don't know, but in the marriages and people struggling with that I would love for you to touch base on, or even as a parent. Either way, you want to go with it or both. What are the common things you're seeing and what is getting the people through the other side when they're coming to you, especially about those two topics Marriage- in our day and age.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

What is tearing people apart and people don't like to hear how do I put this in a way that's easy Is the busyness of not only the life you're living, but also the busyness of the life your kids are living. I can't tell you how many times parents come in. I mean parents come in who are married and they're having marriage problems because they don't see each other ever. And when they get together they're not solving problems within their marriages. What they're doing is that they're trying to, you know, just kind of two ships I guess the old phrase is two ships passing in the night Because this guy got to drive this kid here, got to drive this kid here, and there's never time for one another. And I always tell them I said the issue, the biggest issue you guys are having, is is not the fact that you guys don't you guys lack intimacy or you guys lack that connection. It's the fact that you guys aren't together. You guys are living two separate lives. You can't do that. You guys have been committed to one another and that's when people grow apart, is when we've suddenly God has called us to cleave to our wife and when we're suddenly saying we're not going to do that anymore and we forcefully pull away because of good things. I'm not saying that some of these things are bad, but you're not making those intentional moments to be there, and a lot of it does kind of boil down to how busy we've, we've made our lives and filled our lives up with.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

One thing that I see from guys and guys don't like to hear this too much is that a lot of guys are still boys when they get married and they never grow up, so true. And so they ask questions like well, you know, my wife's rolled a view that I said no, you gotta. You know, my wife's rolled a view. I said, no, you got it, you got to help you. You have to be. And it's not like. It's not like, hey, I'm going to wait around for my wife to get ticked off at me and tell me to do that. No, you, you see it and you do it, and that's being present, and if you're not present in the house to do those things, you're not going to see those things, and so no wonder it's like, you know, the trash is overflowing and you walk out the door quickly again cause you're late to something, and then you get home and your wife's like walking and huffing and you're like, what are you so mad about? And she's like the trash. I'm like, oh, I'll take that out, and she goes. It's not the fact that I told you to take it out, you know, those are some big issues that people deal with when they're just not present for their marriages, and that's what I deal with a whole lot of.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

And then it's just like and then guys, and then guys I can go on. Man, guys want to relax at the end of the day and that's nothing wrong with relaxing, but if you haven't been present for your wife, I don't think you get the privilege to do that. And so when I hear a guy, when I hear a wife saying, well, all he does is play video games all day, well, it's fine to maybe play video games for a half hour or an hour, but like, what were you doing before that? Oh, you walked in the door, put your stuff away and turn on the Xbox. What were you doing before that? Oh, you walked in the door, put your stuff away and turn on the Xbox.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I don't think that's that's helping your marriage, dude. And so it's a lot of this, this ideas of guys just refusing refusing to grow up. I mean for myself even. You know, my mom babied me. I'm the youngest in my family and she did so much for me. And then I got married and then I'm still doing the stupid stuff and I'm just replacing my I say this sometimes to guys I'm like you have replaced your mom with your wife. How does that make you feel?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

And they're like, oh, I have, you're absolutely right. I'm like, yeah, you're expecting her to pick your clothes up off the floor and put your dishes away and all that kind of stuff, and you just you can't do that. Guys, you've got to grow up, you've got to take charge of your family, otherwise it's, it's not, it's not going to be a great thing. Yeah.

Coach Dustin:

I love that and one of the things I got to write, which started with no, and which I love.

Voiceover:

This is perfect.

Coach Dustin:

Absolutely perfect. One of the things that we talked about is, you know, it's because we're so busy with the children, and that's why at the Balanced Business, Dad, the pillars are in order of faith health marriage first, before the children, and I've seen two of my best friends that went through a divorce and what I saw there is they weren't focused on the marriage, and that is something my wife and I were very purposeful about it. We'll do trips with the kids and then vacations on our marriage, and that is something, you know, my wife and I were very purposeful about it. You know we'll do trips with the kids and then vacations on our own. And you know, one of the things that we struggle with, that we're actually working through um is the time because we work together, we're business partners too. It's to have time of not just working when the kids aren't around, not just talking about whatever we're working on. So we've we were purposeful about it and we schedule that time. Yeah, there is time in the calendar every week, even if it's just us going for a walk, Right, and that has been a tremendous difference. We got that from. You know who?

Coach Dustin:

Dr Gary Chapman is the author of the five love languages. Yeah, he also wrote another book called now you're speaking my language Phenomenal. We just finished it. It talked about creating the intimacy in the marriage. But not, you know, everybody thinks of just sexual intimacy. All of the intimacies, right, yeah, and so I would highly recommend that book. But that's awesome. So, from the pastor side of things and the parent side of things, because we want to be the spiritual leader in our household and bringing our kids to church is very important and but I struggle with this While you're preaching, my kids are over there and I'm like I want to pay attention, but they're acting up and so it's like what?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

would your advice be? I'm going to tell you this right now your job right now as a parent isn't to listen to my sermon.

Coach Dustin:

Okay, I'm going to point that out.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

Your job. If you get something away from it, that's great. Your job right now is the fact that you brought those. You brought Raya, you brought Brody, it's Raya, right, yeah, you brought them there, good job.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

And sometimes parents can just get their kids to the parking lot before they start melting down. I'm like, oh good, you got them to the parking lot. You know it's it's, it's the habits that you're building, it's it's it's it's you got a long-term process going on. Your kids aren't going to be with you forever, and so there's going to be time and your kids are going to get older, and there's going to be time when it's like, okay, I can intensely listen to to the message today. But you know, my wife man, my wife's a single parent.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

Every time she goes to church because I'm, I'm, I'm working, and and she always comes sometimes she'll come home and she'll say things like I got nothing out of church today, I'm like, but your kids did, and we also know the promises of God that say that when we're there, stuff happens. So I don't know what happened for you there, but it was good for you to be there, and uh, and so I that's what I try to encourage parents with sometimes is like man, my kids are just going to throw a fit and they're going to go all over the place for there. I'm like, well, come for a little bit. If you got to leave, you got to leave. But the important thing is you're creating faith habits that are saying what we're going to on Sunday morning is is important, and it's so important that I'm going to take you, even when you don't want to go, and you know that's just the way it is Well.

Coach Dustin:

Thank you for that. I needed to hear that, so I'm going to assume a lot of our listeners needed to hear that too.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

Yeah, I might get in trouble for what I just said about like it's not your job. But you know I get it. I absolutely 100% understand how crazy it is to bring your kids to church. It's. You know it can be just a struggle, because it's a struggle to get them up and them in the clothes and out the door and on time. And if you've got stuff going on afterwards I know people do it's like okay, now we've got to time this thing to make sure that we're out of church and oh man, this pastor's preaching.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I know that guy preaches for like 30 minutes, and so it's like, oh, maybe we shouldn't go and you're making excuses before you go, yeah, so yeah, I love that.

Coach Dustin:

Something else I would like to add, just because I saw it firsthand with my best friend, is because you mentioned, obviously you're a parent and a husband is the at our church. I saw it and my best friend mentioned it a lot the scrutiny he was under as being the pastor's son or, to me, the hardest, the hardest working person in a small church is the pastor's wife. Probably in a big church too, at least there's a little bit more support. So how do you guys navigate those waters? And I know our kids are the. One of our kids is the same age, so I know what's going on. There's so much growing up right now at first grade. So do they have that at the larger church like ours, or is that more of the smaller church kind of thing?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

Man, our church is a beautiful church and the people here have been so supportive that we don't really see a lot of that right now. A couple weeks ago my son won't he listens to this in 10 years, so he might say something like Dad. He shouldn't have said that, but Becky went to the 5 o'clock service. I had something else going on so we could go to church together that night. Sometimes we try to go to church together if I'm not working, but a lot of times it just doesn't work out. And so he's having a, he's having a, he's four and he's having a four year old. Four year old meltdown in the back of the church like loud, loud, so loud that one of the ushers texts me and says hey, pastor Ryan, I just wanted you to know that your son's being really loud at church today so that you know whenever he gets home you can talk to him about it, which I appreciate it. I was like that's awesome, thank you for doing that Right, because it was going to happen anyways because of my wife. And then, I guess, the usher went up to my son and said hey, I texted your dad about what's going on here and that caused him to have a bigger meltdown because he didn't want to go home, but it was kind of that. That's the thing about Emmanuel is that the people know my kids but they also know who I am and they know the kind of dad I am and they recognize that, yeah, the pastor kid may be not having a good time back there today, but he's going to hear about it when he gets home and his dad is going to make sure that he knows how we respect mom and church and how we respect church.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

The other pastor was preaching that day. I made my son come to school the next day pastor was preaching that day. I made my son come to school the next day His office is right next to mine and go to him and apologize and say, hey, I'm sorry for how loud I was in church the other day. That's not how I'm supposed to act and so that expectation is there. Regardless if they're my kids or not, I mean they're pastor kids or not and that's the way they should be. But we don't get put under the microscope like other other churches can, and I know those stories are out there the scrutiny that that can be there, the expectations of the way that you're supposed to act, um, as a pastor's kid and and and I'm I'm hoping at least I don't act like a pastor.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

I don't know if he knows that doesn't exist I'm hoping for that reason that my kids are like well, we don't really have to act like traditional pastor's kids in that sense as well. So, yeah, Good.

Coach Dustin:

Good, well, that's awesome. So we're coming up to the side, but what is the one piece of advice that you would give a balanced business, dad?

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

You have time, you have it. I know people talk around here like we don't have time.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

You have it. I know people talk around here like we don't have time. We got to get to the next thing. You do, I promise you do. You just aren't thinking about it in the way that you need to. God has, and I've got one of my favorite Bible verses ever in the Bible. I say I got a lot of favorite Bible verses, but this is probably in this season of my life has probably been the one that I've held on to the most, and it's. It's. Jesus is talking to the Pharisees and he's saying hey, look at the, look at the flowers of the field and look at the birds of the air. Do they tarry or worry about what's going to happen? God has clothed them more beautiful than anything and he takes care of them. He's going to take care of you. And then he goes on to say don't worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow's got enough worries in itself. You take care of today.

Pastor Ryan Taylor:

You worry about where you're at now, and that's what I try to live my life by. So much is what can I do now with the people I'm in the room with and I'm present with today, or for myself that can make a difference today, and if I make a difference in my life today, then that's going to have carryover for tomorrow.

Coach Dustin:

Awesome, that was beautiful. Not expecting that. That was beautiful. I love that. You know, I love that. I love that. So, pastor Ryan, thank you so much for being on the show. Guys, I hope you got as much out of this as I did and if not, you should go back and listen to it and start taking notes, because it was packed with some wisdom there. So I love that. Thank you so much. Guys, remember to dad up, because the people who love you the most deserve it. Until next time. We'll see you next week. And remember you can join our free Facebook group at the Balanced Business, dad, or go to dadupgroupcom. Join us there. Join the discussion of over 400 guys just doing life together. Yeah, so until then we'll see you. Then Make sure you dad up. Thank you, pastor, no problem.

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