Composing a Masterful Life: David Ask's Harmony of Entrepreneurship, Family, and Fulfillment

Have you ever listened to a symphony and marveled at how each instrument brings a unique note to create a harmonious melody? That's what our guest, David Ask, does with the six pillars of life. In our latest episode, this entrepreneur, family man, and Nashville native shares his incredible story of crafting a life that's as balanced as it is fulfilling. Imagine leaving the predictability of a corporate career to invent the StatGuardPlus, all while keeping your family life vibrant and joyous. David's tale is not just a business case study; it's a blueprint for living authentically across all facets of life.

Striking the right chord in life often requires a communal tune, and David opens up about the role his Iron Sharpens Iron Mastermind group has played. It’s like having a personal board of directors for life, not just business. From the challenges of manufacturing to the rhythms of retail, David's candid recount of his professional journey is accompanied by the melodic support of his wife and the brotherhood that surrounds him. His experience proves that the crescendo of success in business can be achieved without compromising the quieter moments that define fatherhood and marriage.

But what about the man behind the microphone? David invites listeners to explore his passions, from strumming life’s strings with his music to crafting words of wisdom in his upcoming book, "The Guardians of Grit." It's a conversation that resonates beyond the airwaves, encouraging all of us to amplify our strengths, tune into our values, and orchestrate a life where every note counts. Tune in and discover how to compose your own masterpiece, echoing David's philosophy to 'Dad Up' for those who cherish your presence the most.

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Transcript

Voiceover: 0:01

Dads, do you want a thriving business that doesn't control you, a passionate marriage and kids that adore you? Do you want to grow deeper in your faith, be healthier both physically and mentally, build more meaningful relationships with your friends? Welcome to the Balanced Business Dad Podcast, where, in each episode, we dive into balancing and optimizing the six pillars of life Faith, health, marriage, fatherhood, brotherhood and business. And here are your hosts, pioneers of the Balanced Business Dad movement Dustin Hogue and RJ Campbell.

Coach Dustin: 0:37

Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the Balanced Business. Dad, I'm your host, coach Dustin, with me, as always, the seasoned, the distinguished Mr RJ Campbell. Rj, how are we doing today? We're doing good, awesome. Beginning of another week. Beginning of another week. Have you started a new book yet, or are you still on the same one?

RJ Campbell: 0:52

Still in Think Fast or Slow.

Coach Dustin: 0:54

Oh Think Fast or Slow.

RJ Campbell: 0:55

Okay, I got two more weeks to get that done. Awesome, that's a push. That one's heavy.

Coach Dustin: 1:08

Awesome, all right. Well, guys, we are always in for a treat. Our goal is to bring you value and bring all the business dads value on things that you can use in your life and in your business. And today we have a guest all the way from Nashville, which is, by the way, my favorite city in the country right now. It is just awesome. But all the way from Nashville, tennessee, mr David Ask, which, what a great last name. How are you, david?

David Ask: 1:27

I'm awesome. You know it's funny. By the way, I probably should have told you this my last name is actually pronounced Ask and it's spelled like Ask, of course, so that makes sense that everybody says that. But it's my. It's funny. My, my heritage is Norwegian and there's a town in Norway, osk, and I've actually had a. I've never been there, but I had a friend send me a picture standing next to the town. Sign there, so wow.

Coach Dustin: 1:51

Wow, that's still pretty cool, cause I've been so for the people who can't see him. He actually is wearing a hat but in my opinion, says ask, but I get that it's wrong, but it's, I like it.

David Ask: 2:17

I like it. So, david, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to again give it back to these fellow business dads here. But but I know they're curious who in the heck are these guys talking to? So I grew up in a little town in Minnesota called Glenwood and just a fantastic place. I ended up moving to Nashville, ended up going to school here and it immediately felt like home. So I agree with you this is just an absolutely fantastic place to live and work and raise a family and just tons of opportunity. And it's not too big yet, so, although it's growing like crazy.

RJ Campbell: 2:50

Yeah, it is getting there.

David Ask: 2:51

Yeah, nashville is awesome, though let's see. My wife and I have been married almost 25 years. We'll be next month. We've got two really fantastic kids. My son, parker, is 18, and he goes to Tennessee Technological University, as we call Tennessee Tech, in Cookville, tennessee. My daughter is a junior in high school and a wonderful violinist. She's first chair down at the Curb Orchestra at Vanderbilt the children's orchestra, and just my little, I call Kate my hired gun when I go out and do some music.

David Ask: 3:26

But anyway, so I, yeah, I'm an entrepreneur through and through, really full time. In the last probably seven years now I work for a large telecom chain. For many years and, in cooperation with my brother-in-law, I actually came up with an invention. It's the StatG guard plus, which is the first thermostat guard in the world with a combination lock, so you don't have to worry about losing, you know, or keeping up with some tiny key. So we just help, of course, people prevent tampering of thermostats and we sell in Home Depot and Lowe's and True Value and you know, we're just just growing that business. Um, as it were. I ended up actually buying him out a few years after I uh, we started that business together and, um, you know, grateful to have found some traction there. So, in addition to that, I do a bit of music.

David Ask: 4:14

Like I mentioned, I came to Nashville, like a lot of people, to be a vocalist and I'm grateful I get to do some of that, um, really thankful. It's just a fun creative outlet. I do some life coaching, really, really. By the way, you know and I kind of mentioned this earlier the reason that I'm sitting here is because when I saw the word dad, you know, on your podcast, I'm like, okay, tap the brakes, you know what are these guys doing.

David Ask: 4:40

And, of course, when I started you know, just understanding who you guys are, what your mission is, what your you know your values and pillars are, as you call them I'm like, all right, we got to connect, because I'm on a very similar mission and I mine is a bit more kind of on a one-on-one basis Dr Andy Garrett's True North Resiliency Program, where we really help people understand, you know what's the difference between resiliency and grit, and in fact I'm writing a book called the Guardians of Grit that is actually for fathers and we can talk about that if you'd like as well. But I'm really really passionate about what you're doing and I'm a part of the Iron Sharpens, iron Mastermind. I facilitate two of those groups and it's been life-changing for my business and my personal life for that matter too. I always tell people, by the way, isi is like you get a band of brothers for your personal life and you get a virtual board of directors for your business and so on. And yeah, it's been life changing.

Coach Dustin: 5:48

I love that and I have a couple of questions about that because I lead a lot of masterminds and in masterminds so I'd love to see how that works. So you left corporate America to invent and then sell this product. Now I'm not a product guy by any means, but that seems like kind of a scary journey. Tell us more about that, like how that all came about.

David Ask: 6:06

You know it was and I. So truth of the matter is, is, you know, when we came up with this, you know we did everything wrong, right, you, if you build it, they will come? Well, of course not, you know. But we, you know I didn't know what I didn't know I? I was surrounded by a lot of great people but you know they didn't have any experience in that area. So, you know, for about four years I had 7,000 thermostat guards, you know, sitting in my garage and you know part of it was is you know, you get over this initial hump of figuring out plastics, injection, molding and sourcing, and you know all that kind of stuff, and you're like, oh man, here we've got these units, we're ready to go.

David Ask: 6:50

Well, now, what you know, I mean, I'm so I'm working, you know, for a telecom retail store and you know, for instance, I'm like well, hey, I just want to get it into Home Depot, that's no big deal, right? Well, you can't call them. If you call Home Depot's headquarters, it says if you know your party's extension, dial it now, otherwise there's no receptionist. You got to go to the website and click vendors and start filling out paperwork and they want to know can you do business with us? Well, of course I can't. If they said yes to me, I can't stock the shelves one time, let alone keep 20,000 units sitting around and understand what supply chain looks like. And you know, just at that point start a whole nother new business, right. So you know it was a heck of a journey to get into. You know the stores, as it were. I ended up partnering with another company and licensing it and um, which has been a wonderful partnership, and now we're, of course, working on other products and so on. But it's a yeah, it was a wild journey.

Coach Dustin: 7:55

Was that your first step into entrepreneurship, or had you done it in the past?

David Ask: 8:00

You know, I would say that was kind of really where I, where I kind of really jumped into the deep end of the pool and like put my money where my mouth is right, because when we had to order product and have you know the molds made for the plastics and so on, you know we're tens of thousands of dollars deep, and so the answer is yes, that was, I would have to say that was by far the you know.

David Ask: 8:22

Besides, you know recording some records and so on, but really jumping into the deep end of the pool there, financially it was scary. I mean, we basically sunk our life savings into it and, you know, just had to not only manage you know what we didn't know, but then manage insecurity and fear and you know, the man in the mirror, as it were. And there was so much about that process that you know I was not anticipating, and part of it was because I didn't ask questions. I didn't really even know that I should ask questions. I, it was, like, you know, figure it out, and it was a lot of limited thinking. You know, I didn't read books, I didn't listen to podcasts and I was in for a real shock with regards to you know what does it look like to run a business. And so you know, after a little bit of pain and some rejection and, you know, frustration, my pride finally dissipated and I started asking questions and surrounding myself with people that could help.

Coach Dustin: 9:21

Wow, what a story. So real quick question when you made that switch where I'm going to start asking questions and looking for help, the trajectory of the business how much quicker did it go?

David Ask: 9:36

Yeah, I mean it was, I mean really amazing over. You know it was funny, I'll put. Let me back up. There was still a lot of waiting.

David Ask: 9:45

You know when you, especially when you start doing business with big box, as it were, you know they don't make decisions quickly, that's all there is to it. I mean they're, they have got. You know, obviously at this point you know shareholders to, you know they're beholden to that kind of thing, but they take their real estate on their shelves very seriously. You know they can't. You know if they make a mistake, you know across their entire portfolio that's a lot of money down the drain, you know lost revenue and, of course, probably be an embarrassment to the merchant. Whoever you know takes care of that particular category. So there's nothing that happens rather you know quickly in that space. So there's nothing that happens rather quickly in that space.

David Ask: 10:26

So a lot of it was some waiting and at the same time I knew that I needed to move product. There's not a lot of margin in selling a little plastic thermostat guard. So it's not like I didn't need to sell 10 a day. We needed to be selling 100 a day. We needed to be moving product. I mean you've got carrying costs, you've got storage fees, all kinds of things. So when I started looking at the business, you know more realistically like we have to have volume, we've got to have flow. Well, you know you've got to have some, some partners at that point who you know have the distribution, you know channels. So it took a really from the time I got a yes from Home Depot until we really started, you know kind of humming. You know it was a couple of years really.

Coach Dustin: 11:15

Wow, yeah, yeah. What a journey. And your kids were young, because you said this was seven years ago, so I mean, what were they 10, 11?

David Ask: 11:24

Yeah, yeah.

Coach Dustin: 11:25

Yeah, you nailed it.

David Ask: 11:25

I mean, and of course, during this, during this time, I'm working a full-time job while, you know, figuring all of this out too. So I've, you know, always had, you know, a side hustle in some way, and I'm just grateful to have made the, you know, the transition. It was interesting that when I joined ISI, you know we had just gotten into 1300 stores and you know it was okay. Is you know? Is it possible, with you know, everything that I'm doing to make the leap to be self-employed at that point, and, of course, I had a board of directors, as it were, to really help me take a, you know, a fresh look at things. And you know, in the council of many, there's wisdom and it was, it was. I was so grateful to have that board of directors to help me make that decision and, yes, it was scary, yeah.

Coach Dustin: 12:13

And is your wife self-employed or does she still work outside of the business?

David Ask: 12:17

So she actually she does, like you know, shipping for us on. You know, on some level she handles a lot of the various bookkeeping, although we do have an accountant now that does largely most of it. And then Lisa works at a, a school here nearby, a private school, nice.

Coach Dustin: 12:33

Awesome.

RJ Campbell: 12:35

Yeah.

Coach Dustin: 12:35

Wow, I want to jump into if you're okay with this, RJ, but the.

Coach Dustin: 12:38

ISI. So I'm a huge proponent of masterminds and coaching because it's made me who I am and that's obviously what I try to do to give back. But you mentioned the mastermind when you were kind of the business was really coming about. I would love for you to kind of tell your story about masterminds and why you feel like it's so important for people in life and people in business, because it seems like you obviously had a lot of success with your mastermind, so I would love for you to tell other people about that.

David Ask: 13:06

Yeah, and of course there's so many different types of masterminds, right, there's some that just focus on your business, or there might be a niche mastermind product development or real estate or whatever it might be. But ISI is very holistic. So we look at, you know, kind of the five areas of life. You know, in essence, everything personal, everything professional, and so there's no stone unturned, because if you're successful in business but your family's falling apart, are you really a success? Right, you know not really. Right, but in the, in the the opposite is kind of true. Right, if you have a really great family but you can't feed them and you're, you know you're worried about where your money is coming from. I mean that's a that's tough.

David Ask: 13:47

I mean I we've had some lean years and I grew up with, you know, in a family that had some really lean years. And if you're, if you're wondering how you're paying your bills guess what? Personal development and being a great parent and a great husband and that kind of stuff, that's not front and center. You know money is. I think Dave Ramsey said money is pretty close to air. Try to live without it, and um, so ISI one thing I really really appreciate. I'll kind of back into it. This way, guys, I I like this idea. You know you become like the five people you spend the most time with. I'm not sure who initially said that Jim Rohn or somebody like that I was actually Dustin Hoke.

Coach Dustin: 14:24

It was weird.

David Ask: 14:25

Oh okay, but how do we know that that is a law like gravity? Those of us who have kids, we don't want our kids getting caught up in the wrong crowd. And guess what, though, for some reason, as adults, we get older and we don't think about that for ourselves, and it's not that we can't have some buddies and this kind of thing.

David Ask: 14:51

But, honestly, the word friend and I'm not going to get too deep here, but the Bible says a friend sticks closer than a brother. Why is that? A brother is de facto. If you get in trouble, he's got to go bail you out, right. But guess what A friend chooses? And choice is everything. I choose you, I choose to step into your chaos, I choose to walk with you and love you when you're not lovely, right, and so that choice is massive.

David Ask: 15:24

So what's fascinating is when you find like-minded people that have a generous spirit, we'll say growth-minded. They want to win, they want to make an impact, they want to, um, you know, express who they are in life and to, to see their dent in the universe, and that kind of thing, as opposed to just hopefully not blow it. You know, which is most men's definition of success. Well, I just, you know, I guess I didn't quite, I didn't totally blow it. That's that's they're just, that's what they're hoping for, which is just a complete joke. So when I joined ISI, I felt like I found my people. You know they're. They're guys that are, um, yeah, forward thinking. They're vulnerable. We talk about sometimes embarrassing things, you know we talk about P and L's and uh, marketing strategies, and you know sourcing strategies, all kinds of stuff, but it's it's such a holistic view of yeah view of things. And of course you know I look back, you know I guess I've been in ISI for just well, right at six years here and you know my marriage is better, my parenting skills are better, my health is better and my marriage is better, my parenting skills are better, my health is better. When I became self-employed other than COVID being a really scary time for my business because I couldn't even get product I've have that band of brothers in that tribe.

David Ask: 16:54

This morning I've had three conversations with guys in ISI. One of them was an hour, the others were just a few minutes. But it's amazing. I don't care if it's a little video chat or a text message like hey, dude, what's up, what do you need today? Or they asked me that same thing. You know you've got somebody standing right next to you saying I want you to win, I'm in your corner, you can depend on me. You know you're not alone and quite often those of us who are solopreneurs, even if we're kind of social people, we often feel quite alone in our businesses and it's isolation just sucks. Yeah, I love that.

RJ Campbell: 17:32

So probably for people that don't know what we're talking about, ISI is iron sharpens iron.

Coach Dustin: 17:37

It's the group yeah.

RJ Campbell: 17:38

The mastermind or the group that that's in.

Coach Dustin: 17:40

Yeah. But what I love about that is this is exactly why we started the DadUp Council is the mastermind around that, because what we realized is the challenges you have, other people have had before you, oh yeah, and they've accomplished those challenges, they've defeated those challenges, they've overcame those challenges, and I wanted to make sure that we can have a platform for other business dads out there where they can accomplish that. So that's all I love that. So I thank you for uh, you talking a little bit about the masterminds. So now you said you like curveballs. So I have a question, because I've never heard it phrased this way. But on your website you say do not start with. Why?

RJ Campbell: 18:23

Yeah.

Coach Dustin: 18:24

Start with the who and who you are, and I'm a big proponent of a purpose that leads into a vision and that's why I do. What I do is before those reasons, I have a purpose around it and that creates my vision around it is what I've always started with and teach. But I would love to hear kind of what you're talking about there.

David Ask: 18:43

Yeah.

David Ask: 18:44

So what's really fascinating is is, you know, quite often and again, simon Sinek, you know he wrote the book Start With why Great book, I mean, it was just he's a really wise person. So, after working with Dr Andy Garrett for a while and trying to understand kind of the progression you know of how does someone establish bedrock, you know it really made me, you know, start to rethink hierarchy of things. So, for instance, you know, if you're, if you're someone who you know grows up in the typical, you know masculine, american type paradigm, there, you know, there's a lot of vagary around what success is, and quite often success is something that you become, you know it's, it's fulfillment, if you will, is something you achieve as opposed to someone that you are. So I'll just kind of tell a story to paint the picture. So much of my life. I was really desperate, I wanted so much to be successful and I wasn't even quite sure why. And I really I realized that it was because I wanted to become somebody. I wanted people to be proud of me, my family and things like that. I wanted to have accomplishments that I could point to, that say that, said, hey, I matter, or I, I've done something. I'm not I'm, I am somebody, or at least I'm not a complete nobody. I don't know if you guys can relate to that, but I I struggled with that really deeply. So my why was, was not grounded in bedrock, my why was not grounded in me, it was grounded in extrinsic, external, you know, stimulus and forces, or whatever you want to call it. So, so why should we start with who?

David Ask: 20:37

Well, you might want to ask the question then what does who mean, right? Right? So who are you? Who are you when you're doing anything? I'm talking? You're at the gas station, you're at the grocery store, where you're with your wife, you're with your kids, you're with me. Who are you? What impact do you want to have? What values do you want to bring forth? What impact do you want to have? What values do you want to bring forth?

David Ask: 21:00

You know, I like to kind of paint the picture this way. You know, with regards to you know, core values, right, we kind of blow by that stuff way too quickly. What does your core happen to value most of all? And, rj and Dustin, if the three of us were to look, in the English language, at potential core values, right, and we were to check off all the ones. There's roughly 80 in the English language. You know the ones that we kind of resonate with, right.

David Ask: 21:30

Well then we start putting those in a hierarchy, value right, prioritizing those. We narrow them down to 10 a piece. Your 10 are going to be different than mine. You narrow those down to five and then put those in priority, vastly different.

David Ask: 21:43

So what's really fascinating is is if you couple that with strengths, you couple that with, I like to say, what is it that gives your goosebumps goosebumps Like, what is it that? Just, you know, like man, when I experience this moment or this paradigm, or I see something in someone else, rise up or discover or whatever that is, what is it that gives you goosebumps? Right, we can look at movies and stuff that we keep going back to and watching, or scenes that are like holy smokes, but that's different for everybody and you know it's fascinating, like. You know, what is it that that just infuriates you uniquely? What is it that breaks your heart? What is it that you love? What type of beauty do you want to behold and even become part of? Establish that uniquely for you. And you've written all that stuff down.

David Ask: 22:41

And, by the way, that's where you know, when I coach people through Dr Andy's framework, he does it in a really unique way. You literally have, you know, a document, as it were, to to course correct to. You know, we're constantly course correcting on any given day. Right, we're like a. Like a plane from LA to New York. They're only on target about 3% of the time and they're constantly course correcting on any given day. Right, we're like a. Like a plane from LA to New York. They're only on target about 3% of the time and they're constantly course correcting. Well, so are we, but now it's not to some arbitrary why. You know it's, it's an. It starts with who. Then, your why is is comes from this predetermined, established place. That makes total sense to you and it feels natural, because if you've not identified the bedrock, guess what your why might be Joe Rogan's why. It might be some talking head that speaks convincingly on social media. It might be your dad's, for that matter, but it's not yours.

Coach Dustin: 23:38

So one of the things, self-awareness it is which I love.

RJ Campbell: 23:42

Yeah, yeah, so really what? And use it twice who your who is? Yeah as opposed to what who should be?

RJ Campbell: 23:49

you should yeah yeah, who do you want? Yeah, I'd say, boy, that's, that's a weird one. Yeah, who do you want to be? Who are you? Who do you think you are? We go right down the pillars a lot of times on the who and we've talked about it's something I think about. A lot is when somebody asks you who you are or what you do in this success-driven world, we default to what we do for a living.

David Ask: 24:12

Exactly yeah.

RJ Campbell: 24:13

And that's not who you are.

David Ask: 24:18

No, I'm not a thermostat guard salesman, right, I'm not a singer. I'm a guy who likes goosebumps. I'm a guy who likes doing things that are inspiring and incredible. I'm the best friend anybody could ever have. I'm the best encourager in the world because when I'm doing it, I feel like I'm flying. That's who I am Love it. Wow, when I'm doing it, I feel like I'm flying. That's who I am Love it, and so it's. It's a yeah, I mean. And again, look around.

David Ask: 24:44

Everybody's definition of success is based on something external. And how do we know that we found our internal, you know true North, as it were. It feels good. Right, you know you haven't found it when you're avoidant, apathetic, anxious, frustrated. But when you start operating in the truest not just true, but the truest sense of who you are, you start to feel resilient and genuine and free. You have clarity because you've predetermined whether it's an opportunity or an obstacle, what you're going to say yes and no to in advance. It's not that big question mark inside of you that you feel and, by the way, everybody else feels your wife, your kids If you've got that stinking question mark, everybody around you is going to feel that.

Coach Dustin: 25:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's our definition A lot of value for the, for your dads out there. Yeah, listen to this. This is how you start creating that life by design that we talk so much about, and in every pillar. Go through this, these questions, because I think there's a lot that you can take from there, right?

RJ Campbell: 25:48

Yeah, that's the definition of success. We'll talk about that within the family. Yeah Is yeah Our definition, and my wife probably give you the same one definition of success for us. Our kids are a little older, way older than his. Yeah, but yeah, we've raised three good, successful caring humans now.

Voiceover: 26:10

Yeah.

RJ Campbell: 26:10

You can't get much more successful than that. That's the job.

Coach Dustin: 26:14

That's how we define it and I'm going to one-up that and they still like you, they still like both of us. See that, we defined it and I'm gonna one up and they still like you, they still like both of us see. Yeah, that's you know, and we've talked about this several times in this show. It's you know.

Coach Dustin: 26:25

for years before rj and I did this together, I was using rj as a mentor, as a husband and father, because after 35 years his wife still seems to like him I got questions but still seems to like him and his kids are obviously good citizens but they still like go hang out with him.

RJ Campbell: 26:39

Yeah.

Coach Dustin: 26:39

Like there's something there, there's attributes of that success and I know a lot of six quote successful people, but that's the success I was looking for.

RJ Campbell: 26:48

You can't ask for anything more than what we have. Yeah, isn't?

David Ask: 26:51

that great. That's the who.

RJ Campbell: 26:53

Yeah, when people say what is your who? And that's where I tell them I'm a Christian, god-loving father and husband. Pretty much sums it up.

David Ask: 27:03

So let me shine just a little more spotlight on this, too. That I just love. Where do we get the word authenticity? It comes from the word author. You did not make you and I'm speaking to the audience here right? You didn't choose your eye color, your taste buds or your personality. You choose nothing.

David Ask: 27:25

And how do we know that's true? Those of us who have kids within just a few weeks or months, anyway, you can tell that they're incredibly different. Their little spirit and essence is so vastly different. My siblings, right, we're just incredibly different. And up until you're about six or seven years old, you're not thinking like us. Stupid adults are about being authentic. You're just doing your deal, but kids are so different immediately.

David Ask: 27:56

So what does that mean, though? It means that God made you in a wonderful. You're fearfully and wonderfully made, and when you start to identify right the word identity what God made in you, that's really unique to you. What happens? So you've got authenticity, you know author, but you have authenticity authority. You start to feel a sense of authority in your life because you're operating in a natural state, and you know, for instance, my dad. You know army, very uh, kind of um, linear type thinking. You know methodical. He was a metal fabricator, making, you know, spiral staircases that were three stories tall and all kinds of really intricate stuff, but you know. So this is a just a kind of a singular example, right, if I tried to follow in my dad's footsteps with regards to you know kind of, uh, natural wiring and strengths and things like that, just because I love my dad and he's a good man, you know I would be, I'd be really frustrated.

David Ask: 28:59

I'm not the guy that you want building spiral staircases. I don't like building. I don't. I can do it. Right, he taught me all the stuff I don't like. You know numbers and math and all that kind of stuff.

David Ask: 29:12

I'm not a details person, but when, when I finally kind of understood and relaxed into who God made me, right, I'm the guy behind the guy. I'm the guy that loves being the Barnabas, the Silas, the guy who gets behind somebody and says do you have any idea who I think you are? You've got this, you know, let me help you. I'm going to hold up a mirror. This is what I do to hopefully everybody, but especially my family. Right, I hold up a mirror. This is what I do to hopefully everybody, but especially my family, right.

David Ask: 29:42

I hold up a mirror and say do you see what I see? This is fantastic. And I start mirroring back to them. You know their riches. My favorite quote, by the way, is the greatest good you can do for another is not to share with him your riches, but reveal to him his own. Benjamin Disraeli and that's, I'll be honest, that is my mission in life. Disraeli just captured who God made me, in one sentence, to be, and I felt like, when I heard that a couple of years ago, I'm like well, thank you, you just put words in my mouth that I've kind of been doing most of my life and now I just assigned meaning to it and I've got sharper tools in my belt.

Coach Dustin: 30:21

Man, I love it. Oh, that's good. Dad's, this is going to be an episode you want to go back and listen to, cause there's a lot of tangible things that you can take from this message and go talk through it.

Coach Dustin: 30:31

So that was good and, again, our goal is always to bring all the business ads values and I believe, david, you did so. Thank you so much, guys. Of course, we can always carry on this conversation at our free facebook group, the balanced business dad. You can go to dad up groupcom. Uh, also be on the lookout, because it's that time. Here comes the retreat season. So the first weekend of may we will be having the dad up council and the balanced business dad retreat, where we get 10 to 15 guys that, uh, you know, if you've never been in a mastermind or a hot seat, it is an experience to have, um, where you know 14 other people are pouring into you and your challenges and your successes to make you a better person. So be on the lookout for that link, because that is happening the first week.

RJ Campbell: 31:20

It's only a month away, a little over a month.

Coach Dustin: 31:22

Yeah, so it's going to be exciting. So looking forward to that, david. Thank you so much, rj, what you got.

RJ Campbell: 31:27

Glad to be here. I think that was it. I don't have much else. We just want to know how. How do people find David? David, how do we get to you? How do people find you and get your music? There's so much more to David that we did not have time to talk about Well, thank you. Pretty cool.

David Ask: 31:44

You know well. Thank you, by the way, an honor to be here with you. So music you can find, you know, david Osk ASK, on Spotify and iTunes and all that. My, of course, my current business is statguardpluscom, and you can, of course, reach out to me on my website, which is davidoskcom.

Coach Dustin: 32:03

Awesome, thank you, and we'll be on the lookout for that book because that sounds really interesting.

RJ Campbell: 32:07

Yeah, I wrote that one down. Yeah, I didn't even get to ask the difference, the difference between resilience and grit. We have to wait for the book.

Coach Dustin: 32:14

We have to wait for the book. That's right. That's right. That's awesome, david. Thank you so much. Guys, remember to dad up, because the people who love you the most deserve it, and we will see you next week.

RJ Campbell: 32:25

We are out.